Roundtable: What it means to contribute to the WordPress community

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They’ve been able to both personally and professionally collaborate with an Open Source community, because a lot of times we’re talking about collaborating with WordPress, collaborating with these types of Open Source technologies, but let’s see firsthand what collaborating with these types of technologies has really given them. Well, and without further ado, let’s go ahead and sit down over here. Let’s give them a round of applause.

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Well, first of all, just to get you all warmed up, I’d like each of you to introduce yourselves, okay? Keep it short, please.

Well, I’d like you to at least tell me which WordCamp, for example, you started at. Any of you have to remember? Well, the first one.

Well, I am David, I made my debut in the WorldCamp Chiclana, I was telling Paco and it was in 2016 and well, I said to myself, well, in a WorldCamp, an event, 2016, 17, well 17, you have not corrected me, eh. Of course, that’s the truth. And well, I’ve been contributing to the community for a while now, and so it was a bit of a hook to get into an event and meet people. The truth is that the community is…. You’ll see, you’ll leave with your batteries charged. I have a marketing agency, we are currently 13 people, and well, we manage this whole issue, this digital marketing, and also the development all based on WordPress. It has been short. Well, good morning everyone. The first thing I want to say is that we have talked about it before behind Bambalinas and it is a joy for the people who have been attending for many years now, we can say, the WorldCamp to come to an event like this and not recognize most of the faces and that’s a very good sign so I welcome all of you who is your first time, okay? I’m Jaime Gármar, I’ve been playing Warpress since 2013 but I really discovered the community around 2017. My first Work Camp, I think it was in Madrid 2018, in which I attended for the first time and as an opponent. And since… Yes, Fernando Tellado’s fault. And since that, well, like almost all of us here, we have tried not to stop. I have a company, Destaca SL, which is a company specialized in WordPress maintenance and support, and we are currently a team of seven people. I understand that there will be some questions about what the community has given us, but my company is totally built thanks to the community and then I will explain why. Thank you very much. -Good morning, everybody. Hi, Carla. I was very happy to see Carla Patricia. She comes from the Canary Islands. I come from Madrid, I am Ana Cirujano, digital business designer. My first Workahm was Workahm Madrid 2017. The second one was Work in Chiclana 2017, which was the work in that changed my life, which now we are going to go deeper into that. It will sound a little weird to you now, but on Sunday morning maybe you’ll understand me a little better. I have a podcast called A Ticket to Chatanuga where we talk about online business, marketing and web design, which I invite you to listen to. We also broadcast it on a YouTube channel. I also have an online academy of the same, design, marketing and online business with Pablo Maratinos, who is also my partner in the podcast. And I am a brand ambassador for Piensa Solutions, which is a cheap hosting company, which has a free plan specialized in WordPress, which I also invite you to use and take advantage of, it’s phenomenal. And as it was short, I think it was enough. Well, I’m Jesús Yesare and…. Yes, well, I’ll tell you tomorrow, I used to be a geologist, but since I was really into computers, I finally got into the world of web pages. And WordPress has given me a lot because, well, first, the world of websites was very dry until I got to WordPress and my life was very dry until I got to the community, it was in 2017. Why? Well because you’re at home alone, facing clients, in the cave stuck and I discovered one fine day that the community was starting in Granada and the creator of that community, who is Fran Torres, who tomorrow you’re going to have him, well, today you have him around here right now, well it turns out that one fine day after going to two or three meetups he said to me “Do you want to organize a work-in?” I said “What’s that? He said “It doesn’t matter”. And I got into organizing a work-in, I had no idea what it was. I could have come to Chiclana, but there were two that didn’t let me know and I didn’t come. And I missed it and organized that work-in. It would have changed a lot the work-in Granada if I had come. And I got to know a Workan from the inside, without having any idea what a Workan was. It went very well and then I was organized again. What has the community given me? Well, a lot. First of all, meeting all these people, who are wonderful. And not always, but wonderful. And above all I also owe it to my work as a support technician at boluda.com and of course it has not been directly because of that but it has helped me a lot to have become visible in the work camp. So, and now then, we are already in the morning with Javier, right? Hi, I’m Javier Casares, I started in WordPress in 2005, with version 1.5, I had these days reviewing, now I’ll tell you, reviewing some things, actually I started doing things with 1.2, so we can go back a little earlier. Speaking of events, I think my first event must have been…. It could be Seville 2012, but I’m not sure either, I think it could be before. That’s the first one that I remember. I remember that. I mean, so a little more personal experience. In 2015 I was the organizer of the Workaholk in Barcelona, I am from Barcelona, although now I live in Granada, and in my day to day I do a thousand things, so the two main ones, I have a podcast called WordPress Podcast, every week in ten minutes I summarize all the information of the WordPress community, Now I’m also doing interviews with people with these profiles within the community and soon there will be something else within the podcast and within the community I am currently one of the four global representatives, one of the four global representatives of the hosting team and now in addition to the talk that I will give or the workshop that I will give tomorrow I’m also involved in the documentation team, I’m there leading a project and tomorrow is one of the things that we will discuss. [SILENCE] Good thing it was the short version, but okay. Okay. [SILENCE] Thank goodness, thank goodness. Okay, so with the first question I would like to start, especially, since there are so many new people, we are always taught to charge for our services, if I do something they have to pay for it, but now we are seeing the opposite, right? Contributing to an open source community, that is, giving our time for something bigger, right? Like for example in this case WordPress, right? So the question then goes to what is a reason to start contributing to the WordPress community. Well, to me I was already contributing to WordPress at one point and it was out of necessity. Translations, as the gateway, are going to much because seeing the plugin before was more necessary, now it is true that there is a lot of community and it really is a drama in another language. Go to Latin America, we have made a store in Latin America and not even Gucco has translated it for me. So, there is the real drama of saying, oysters. So, I came in with the need to translate the plugin. Then, I said, when they already allowed you to upload the translations, I said, on the contrary, I am going to upload mine and this way you benefit and I benefit from the rest. So, effectively, you see a need and then little by little you go deeper and it is true that you get many contacts, very valid people that you can ask, really, stop anyone, ask us anything you need because these are moments when we are all open to know each other and even to see professional things, hey I do not understand this because … and a little bit has always been by necessity and from there you get to know more depth and you get to know more people. Well, I met the WordPress community, almost by rebound. I saw on a social network, I think I remember it was Twitter, I don’t remember it well, that there was something called Meetup.com and that they organized events of different types. Then, when I had been living in Madrid for a few years and I was looking for WordPress, I saw a Meetup in the Sierra Norte de Madrid that was a few kilometers away and I said I threw the blanket over my head and I said I’m going to go there. Well, I just saw with the Meetup of I do not know if you know a guy named Fernando Tellado, I do not know if you know any of those who say out there that no, you will end up sounding. Fernando Tellado is one of the pillars, we can say, within the WordPress community in Spain and worldwide too, why not say it. But well, I met this person who has been in the WordPress world for many years and then he told me, hey, you’re starting, you’re so done forwards, so I asked him, hey, how can you collaborate here? I was flabbergasted, okay, I mean, to arrive, people giving their time, giving training for free, explaining everything they knew for free, my brain exploded. And then he said to me, hey, well, if you know what you want, prepare a small lecture, come here, give a little talk and so on. And so little by little I started to enter, later we will talk more about what the community has given us, but as Ana says, it was something that totally changed my life, because I entered to know a community that was totally unknown to me, a community of a software that at that time was not feeding me, but it was already starting to give me my first income, and in the end, in short, all this is a bit of giving back to the community, all this is a little bit to give back to that software that we all use, or the great majority of us here, and we nourish ourselves, we take advantage of that software, a little bit to give back the favor so that it continues standing, so that it grows and, above all, to share that, hey, at the end it is also very nice to share with others and help others and learn too, of course. Okay, so, the world of free software, I think it’s very nice to share with others. The world of free software, I think it is, above all, exciting and passionate. Why? Because you learn. When you’re contributing, when you’re collaborating, you’re learning a lot about WordPress, which is the tool with which you make the websites, but mostly because of the people you meet, the contacts you make, the personal relationships, the friends you meet. So, I guess I would sum it up in, why do I contribute? Because I enjoy it, because I have a great time. It’s true that by contributing to WordPress you make WordPress sustainable, since it’s a free and open source software, how does it sustain itself? Because there are people who contribute their work and effort, but in exchange for what, right? Well, in exchange for getting that, for having a good time, because we enjoy it a lot, for learning things that are useful for our daily work, and because we have a good time. In short, it is to enjoy, to enjoy contributing and to enjoy sharing that work with the people we know. Moreover, then these contacts really become, apart from being able to go out for beers, which is very important, because there are beers or soft drinks, they become work. I do 100% of the work I do on a daily basis thanks to people in the community, people who have recommended me to my clients, people who have hired me directly, companies that call me because they know me, because they have heard me give a talk. All 100% comes from contributing to the WordPress community. So, you start because you need it. I started in the translation team as well. And you continue, one, because you enjoy it and, two, because it feeds you. Why do I contribute to WordPress? Why don’t I have the guts? Because I’m forced to. It’s because I came to WordPress. I mean, I… One day, listening to the podcast of the guy who wasn’t my boss at the time, he says, “In Granada, the WordPress community has opened. At 7 o’clock, at the first meeting, I look, I do not arrive. At the second meeting, I went. Two or three meetings later, I was already a speaker. Well, speaker. That’s what they thought. What I did was deceive them because they thought I was going to give them a talk on pricing. In reality, what I did was a group therapy so that everyone could let off steam and we could share how we set prices, how customers sometimes annoy us a little bit, let off steam, that is, how we deal with tough situations, it was very cool. Three hours, huh? The longest, I hold the record. Of course, they helped me so much, they helped me so much, and then I was in the trap of being the organizer of Work in Granada, which I suddenly discovered, I was coming from a difficult moment, I was doing badly at work, I felt very lonely professionally and suddenly I discovered this whole group of professionals that instead of going like, oh, this is my competition, this is my competition, I don’t know, this is my competition, this is my competition, this is my competition, this is my competition, I don’t know what, I don’t know how much, on the contrary, they helped me, hey, if you need I don’t know what, look, I would do this with this client, I don’t know what, I even counted on them so that if I couldn’t do something, you know that when you start as a freelancer you get into whatever, don’t do it. In other words, if something is not within your reach, it is better to have someone who knows more than the one who has the phone than the one who knows than you do. So they helped me so much that how can I not contribute to WordPress and I started with translations, which is true, it is necessary to translate plugins, etcetera, but then I’ve been getting involved and now I’m involved in more things. Apart from organizing events, now I’m a little more in documentation, in history, in short, I feel obliged to do it, but I feel obliged with pleasure because I have a great time with these people. So I think it is more what I have received than what I have given, of course. Let’s see, I think my way of entering and contributing to the community is completely different from yours. I guess because I come more from, let’s say, always one of the last things that we’re talking a lot about is like the generations that have been in the WordPress community. Right, I’m like the first generation. Well sure, the way I got in is very different. I actually started using WordPress. I mean, for me it was, I set up WordPress because I had a need, we started publishing and so on. And at that time I was doing, I’m talking about 2005-2006, I was doing SEO, some web performance, what at that time was web performance, systems things, programming. I come from that part. And I think my first real WordPress-related event wasn’t at a WordPress event, it was at a Drupal or Joomla event. Yes, it’s quite curious because it was an event in Madrid. is that no, look, I’m talking about, now going even further back, you asked before about WordCamp, but I come from back then. We are talking about 2010, 2011 or thereabouts, or even before, there are videos on the internet. And then they did like a kind of half debate, WordPress versus Drupal battle. And then they took me from Barcelona to Madrid just for that, for that battle. And I ended up winning the battle on their turf. So, I was talking about WordPress in all the SEO talks, about more professional things that had nothing to do with WordPress itself. And that’s where I started to enter and where people from the WordPress world started to know me without being part of the WordPress community. When they started to ask, there weren’t that many of us at that time, when they started to ask people from the WordPress world to give talks, I was one of the visible faces that had slipped in there by rebound, but I wasn’t part of the WordPress community. I actually, if I have to put a start date, it’s the date of my WordPress profile, which is around 2012, which would probably be when I would coincide with Seville, which I had to register to appear in the WorkCamp or in some weird bandana. So my entry was around there and of course it’s not the norm. Notice that most of it is… no, I’m translating because you went to contributors, to things that existed, that existed when I… there was nothing, there were no WorkCamps when I started. Then I have a second phase, which is, I’m already known, let’s say, within WordPress, I dedicate myself professionally to do WordPress things, especially using WordPress for SEO issues, for performance issues, to help more in consulting mode maybe, and then they start calling you for SEO things, to give talks about things that you do. I know about this, I know about “Do I use WordPress? Well, let’s talk about it. That’s when I started, for example, also, more in the part of what I do now, which is more the hosting systems part, to scale WordPress. Then, a world cup came along, we set up a website and we had… we had 15,000 concurrent users in the Google Analytics counter, I’m talking about 2008, maybe. In other words, the machine exploded and was set up with 7 WordPress in parallel. Well, that was NASA. At that time nobody was doing that. And then I started to talk about other things that were not SEO or anything like that. And that was the turning point to start giving talks at work camps. So I was not part of the community as such until that moment when you start to be part of the community without wanting to. And you start giving talks and then you start going to the contributors. At the contributors, well you’re there, you’re there, you’re there, you’re at any table, because they don’t really know what you’re going for, which is what’s happening to you right now, you’re like, what the fuck am I doing here? Okay, so then, then you’ll see, and you’ll be sitting pretty much at the tables that we’re going to be running. And then it was a little bit like that, the discovery of, wow, there’s more stuff here. And the third point, which, let’s say, is the present, was marked by the World Camp Granada in ’18. Well, it was Seville, which was about two weeks before, that’s where I met Mike, right? Yes, it was 18, yes. It was the one in Seville that I met a guy, an American, I was there, and I said, “This interests me because nobody had ever done a core table”. Nobody had ever done anything like that in a contributor. “I’m going to go see what the fuck that is, because I’m really interested in that, just for the sake of chafing.” And two weeks later, this guy was also giving a talk in Granada. And at the dinner we have the day before, talking about things, he says to me “Ah, but if there’s a hosting team in the community, what are you telling me? Is there a team of what I do? Are you telling me I can get in there?”. And so, I jumped in. I started going to the weekly meetings, I mean, I was at the hosting table that he organized in Granada. Then I went to the weekly meetings, I started to see how it worked. Obviously, this is already at a global level in English, with the limitations that I could have. And then you start to talk and people start to listen to you. And they say, ah, what you said is a very good idea, let’s do it. And you say, excuse me, I mean, you’re going to change something in WordPress because I said so. And then, of course, you start little by little, little by little until today. Three years ago I was put in charge of the hosting team, I still don’t know why. And six months ago, in August, somebody from the documentation team came to the hosting team and knocked on the door and said, hey, we have a problem here with the technical documentation and nobody is taking care of it. Like this, more or less you guys know about this, would anybody be interested in helping us a little bit, and here’s the key word, was a little bit with this documentation issue? Well, come on, I’ll get involved, because now in August I have nothing to do. What a disaster that was. From then on, I was put in charge of the worldwide technical documentation for WordPress. I don’t write anything, it’s the funniest thing. I organize everything, but I don’t write the documentation. Yes, I’m a bit of a puppet master. Today, for example, at this afternoon’s hosting/documentation table, what we’ll see is a little bit of that. You see a little bit all the way through, but we’re going to focus a little bit on all of that. If you know a little bit of technical stuff, we’ll see that this afternoon. Are you going to leave a mic to me alone? (Pedro and Juan approach the video) Well, after telling us about your life, I think you’ve all agreed that contributing to the community has given you more than what you’ve contributed, both on a personal level and on a professional level. Start for example… Well, I benefit by being brief, above all, better professionally. It makes me a better professional to be in the community. Why? Because I’m up to date with everything that happens in WordPress that affects my work, I see the new technologies, I see… everyone has a postcard here, I also have one with Jesus that is archived there, but it is asleep, but I am up to date with what is super important and in that touch we are even more, then I am very connected to what is new, then I am always experimenting and in the workbench many times you say you do not learn, you do not always learn because you say hey, now it has come out full side of time I want to see it with colleagues as you are doing day by day and you share experiences. So what has made me a totally better professional, because I am more connected, I have more and then many relationships, that is, many projects as Jesus says of the freelancer or even an agency, you have many connections of people, hey you can do this, I can do that, I have a project that I need this, then it creates many relationships and in the end it makes you prosper at a given time. Because in the end you have to carry out the projects and you never know who you might meet and that is very important. So, better professional and better connections. So a little bit of the benefits that I could say. Well, I think we are all going to coincide here. To me the professional part and the personal part is mixed a lot, I agree because here at the end apart from learning apart from sharing what you know what you know what to listen to great professionals not like those who are here as those who are down there and thanks to what you know thanks to sharing you learn you do not and all that you take it for your business I at the end now that you have spoken of podcast I in 2017 mounted mounted a podcast that this podcast is fed by doing interviews in a high percentage to many people of the community. This is where I think almost all of you have been. On the one hand, that was a turning point for me to become known, because for me it was also a very very very very important change of visibility. And on the other hand, what I also gained is getting to know all the professionals personally, one by one, and nourishing myself with what they know and above all generating those relationships that I think we are all more or less going to agree on, relationships that I don’t know if I have mentioned before but my company that I set up, the one I have talked about stands out, I set it up in 2017 and it has been thanks to the community, that is, my team 100% are people I have met in events like this and when I say that the professional, personal part is mixed, because of those people who work with me, here everyone, the vast majority of them, we have crossed paths at some point in a project, but they are also people with whom I go out for beer, with whom I go on weekends, with whom we share problems, that is, friendships, friendships, friendships, to call it friendship, to call it almost family, because here we all, fortunately since the pandemic has passed, we see each other almost once a month and we all see each other almost once a month, we see each other almost once a month and no matter how much time has passed, there has been a pandemic in between, for example, I haven’t seen this gentleman for a long time and it seems that we saw each other yesterday, these are the beautiful relationships that are created here in the community and that you are going to start experiencing now. That’s when Ana and her colleagues commented that you will notice on Sunday that something in you has changed and that’s when you get the bug and you can’t stop going to the next Workahol. I am sure we will see each other from now on in all the ones you can attend. I agree, in my case the same thing happens, the most important thing is the connections, the people. When you contribute you have a lot of visibility, also in any team. If you contribute with a translation your name is seen. When you translate a string you have to communicate it in Slack, which is the chat program we use to communicate with each other in the community and you have to say “I have translated these strings, please review them for me”, then your name is already visible. The more you contribute, the more visibility you have, the more exposure you have in other teams the more visibility you have, for example if you are a speaker in a work camp, which would be the community events team, you can have more visibility because then everything is recorded. In the end, to a greater or lesser extent it is seen, the more you do, the more it is seen and that exposure also makes you want to be better, you want to translate better and better, you want to be a better designer to make better design contributions because everything you do, the better you do it, the better people will talk about you and that gives you an authority, a position that makes you, as David said, a better person, a better professional and this translates into being able to charge your clients more because they trust you more, they have much more security hiring a person who is so exposed because you are not going to disappear. If I treat a client badly, of course, effectively, that is, the more you contribute to the community, the better professional you are, the more you demand from yourself because you have a responsibility for the things you tell, you have had to have tried them before. And that makes us better and better positioned, we are more comfortable, we are happier, happier. Let’s see, to separate, although it is difficult to separate, on the work side, well, as I have already said, it made my life much easier, because being able to go to, instead of, that is, the way to satisfy my desire to throw myself out of the window when a client was really tightening the screws was to call David or another colleague from Granada who has also helped me a lot. David has also dealt with my clients at some point. Then also my current work, well if I had not, I would not have made myself known or well I would not really say known, but I would have been increasingly visible in the WordPress community and I would have met my boss in Work in Madrid, well maybe and colleagues here who are my colleagues today in the company and who fought for me to enter it, then I would not be where I am right now, in boluda.com. That is the professional part. The personal part, which I think is almost more important. Who was going to tell me, especially at that time, when I was in a kind of hole, who was going to tell me that I was going to be part of organizing an event in which we brought 250 people to the Palacio de Congreso in Granada and that the following year we would bring 350. First, because I developed capabilities that I did not know I had. Second, because I developed a teamwork that I had never developed before, because I have always been autonomous, and also because the team was fantastic. There were two incredible teams, from the two work-in teams in which I participated. And then, my first work-in as a speaker was two months ago, so it took me a long time to give a presentation at a work-in. And to become a speaker in a work-in, and in this one that I am going to be too, five years ago, I would not have thought of that, no, they tell me about it and no way, no way, no way. So, it has given me, apart from friends, it has given me a personal growth, being within the WordPress community, brutal. But then, just to take a step further, last year I went to Work in Europe and that’s like, well, I was like Paco Martínez Oria in the middle of Barcelona with a cardboard suitcase because that’s on a different scale, it’s a brutal thing but that has also turned into other steps that I’ve taken this year with the help of Javier, other steps that I’ve taken this year to reach the point of…, well, in an event that is worldwide, worldwide that is organized by the creator of WordPress that has come to put something that we’ve created. So, for me that’s…, it’s like this year I’m already floating, already too much. So, well, from a personal point of view, you see, a very, very high growth. So, nothing, it’s over. No, I can’t. Hi, I’m Javier Casares and I’m a socialite. Yes, in general I don’t go out of the house. I mean, it’s very rare for me to… I mean, during the pandemic I was the happiest guy in the world, locked up in my house. my house. I know it’s politically incorrect to say it, but it’s the reality. But it is true that, and Ana knows this because in 2018 we are going to visit all the work-cams in Spain, you are going to see me in all the possible work-cams and in all the possible events wherever I am. when we go travelling… Eh? No, yes, no, next year I’m going to the WorkCamp… I mean, this coming year, no, this summer I’m going to WorkCamp US. I mean, I’m going to be there, I’m going directly to meet the colleagues I talk to every week and I don’t know. That’s another thing that happened to me at the WorkCamp Bureau I was talking about in Porto last year. We had, right in the pandemic and so on and so forth, that I was going to meet people from the hosting team and I met them two or three years later. People that you’re with every week and you have to manage a team and things. So, things that, I mean, for me the community is the base. I mean, as I said, I’m a social, I have another problem, which is that I don’t remember anyone’s name. So, if someone comes up to me and says, no, if we met, I don’t know where I’ll start there, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, until I find the exact moment where we met. But I won’t remember your name anyway, but come say hello to me. And that’s another thing I recommend you do 100%. We’re here because we’re community elders, but we’re not– I mean, yeah, I’m– Well, man, more than these people, for sure. Probably most of them. But one thing I do tell you is, we’re here because we’ve been here for a while, because we have some experience, but in one day a few years ago we were there. I say this so that if you have any doubts, each one of you, here we do a little bit, in the professional area we each do a little bit of our own thing, but come closer, ask. Yesterday, I don’t know with whom I was commenting, it was published in a tweet. Maybe I don’t know about something, but you ask me about design and I say, wait, I’ll take you by the hand and I’ll take you to Ana. And I tell you, talk to this person who is the one who is going to solve what you need. So, mostly focused on networking. David knows that. I work together with David, for example, but independently of the work that he and I have, and the fact that we are obviously colleagues, we have clients in common or that I have passed on to him for a part that I don’t do, but then that client becomes a three-way or four-way and so on, so it’s not just the fact of the day-to-day personal relationship with Jesús, I talk to him every day almost more than with his wife. Well, yes, no, let’s not take out the We have audios of seven minutes and eight minutes that we crossed, let’s go, with that I think that summarizes a little bit. We can… Yeah, yeah, they last longer sometimes than my podcast. But yes, but above all, what I was saying, focus on making relationships, meeting people, I mean, I’m a social, you probably won’t see me approaching you, but you can approach me easily. Y… What a bad area. [INAUDIBLE] Also. And then, I don’t know, if you see that there is a little circle, a little group, that we are all there, just because we are there, it doesn’t mean that we are an elite or some strange people there, you take and get in between two, you do like this, and you will see how automatically the circle opens by itself. And all of a sudden there is a gigantic circle, that happens 20 times in each work camp. So focus on that. Introduce yourselves, hello, let’s see, introduce yourselves in a way, don’t come and sell me your bike that I’m not interested in, okay? A priori, right? It is the reality, it is true or not, you laugh because it is the reality. Yes, in other words, introduce yourselves, hello, hey, what are you doing, I am doing this, okay? I mean, there is a certain calm, formal communication, if you need something, if you have any questions about anything, ask anyone, it doesn’t matter what I say in general, the point is that we already have that networking, create your own networking through our contacts, if in a month you need something, send us an email or write us a tweet, hey, we met there, I’ll tell you who you are, okay, but if we met on the webcam in Chiclana, I need this. Who do you recommend? What do you recommend? Where can I find the information? Focus on that. That’s what you need to take away. Aside from learning things that, I mean, you’ll go to any talk and, oh boy, that’s it, I’ve gone with this webcam thing and that does it all. I think that’s a very important point. Yes, now I have a microphone. Now that’s a very important point, I remember my first WorkCamp, which was in Madrid 2017, that I was scared and terrified to approach any of the speakers. For example, seeing Fernando Tellado was…, oops, I see his blog every day, he has solved 10,000 problems for me thanks to his content. He was a superstar, and he’s a superstar in the WordPress community, as he’s one of the people who contributes the most and has given the most awareness. So feel free to enter, as he said, any circle you see, don’t be afraid to talk to anyone. The WordPress community is very open, networking, very inclusive. Now you see us, for example, up here talking, but we all started in those chairs listening to the speaker who was up here, asking questions. That’s also very important, asking questions to those who are here. You have an incredible opportunity to…, there it is, for example, however absolute it is, since you have the microphone of…, right? No, no, it is true that it is often scary to ask a question that is too simple or too easy. No, ask it, really, it’s one thing that characterizes the WordPress community is that we are very open, in the sense that you can stop us, talk, enter in circles, as you say, and ask, ask, ask, ask, learn. It’s true that also the IT world is also very characterized by this exclusion of not wanting to show that your code… Yes, the speaker goes to be… Yes, or not to teach code… Yes, yes. Any WordPress event the speakers come voluntarily, they are not paid as in other events… What do you mean, no? Have I been told otherwise? Well, we’ll talk about it later. In other events that you will see, that maybe you pay 100, 200 euros for the entrance, the WordPress community is the opposite. We can offer the maximum content at an affordable price so that at the end… PRESIDENT (Valle Barbero): So that it is not an obstacle, that it is not an obstacle to come and learn. MR. PRESIDENT (Valle Barbero): There it is. So, take that freedom that you have to ask any speaker and any person that we are here and take advantage of that time because I think that is the best advice I can give, take advantage of contributors, because I remember that in my first work-camp I did not go to contributor because I said “this must work, what is it? That now I really have to get to work”. In fact, there is a moment where you actually, apart from contributing to Warpress, you can share things, teach what you have done with colleagues from, as I said, organized comesas in case you learn more. So I would like each of you to give one or two tips that you would give to a person who is just starting out. What is your first work-camp, advice would you give them to get 100% out of these two days? Look, I, for example, have set several learning objectives for this WorkCamp and I’m already going to look for, for example, I’m going to look for Paco and I’m going to ask him a couple of things, mostly to share. Things that you want to learn and that you have that doubt of hey, how would this be, how do you do such and such, how do you do it, how do you do it, how do you…? Because many times it may not change the way you do it, but it does change a little bit how you see it, doesn’t it? I especially like to set mental objectives, to say, hey, would I like to learn this, this and this? Evidently with the workshops you have them, the same exposure, ask, in the end it is to learn, learn, learn, learn, it is a little bit one of the objectives whenever you come to the huelca, apart from everything we are talking about meeting people, see it again and give hugs. Here you will see that it is an event of hugs, when you greet you all are hugs. Yes, yes, the pandemic is effective. And I that, set goals, I want to learn this, like here for example the topic of, there is a lot of movement with the topic of the editor, the new editor, well hey, how everyone is implementing it in their day to day, how do you solve certain problems and write them down and put a list and say come on then I’m going to such and such or look at the hosting versus having Javi Javi like look this host is going very slow because you think it’s going slow because I have to change something in the retail but or give the solution that question but to Jaime as already projects to a design theme or so you should have here everyone and the same when it comes out, hey, I want to ask you a couple of things. Take advantage and ask. And that these mental objectives will obviously be fulfilled and you will get more and you will see a little more. It is very good that you are here today, because I think it is a good opportunity to really get to know the heart of an event like this. To know how it is sustained, to understand how you can share, to realize that you can share your grain of sand to make it bigger and to continue with that continuity. In WordPress we all have something to teach and it’s very good especially to understand the soul of these events because at the end of the day tomorrow is a day of talks that of course is super important, you’re going to learn a lot, but that part of the heart of the event is missing, the heart of the community, which is what you’re going to discover today. I, to give you some advice, we have been talking about it a lot, Jesus and Javier much more, of course. But I, personally, it is something that in my day to day I always fight for people to let go, to open their eyes and to lose their fear. As much as we tell you, I know that many of you are going to be very afraid to open up and get to know us, to get to know the person next to you. But really, that fear is only one step away. What you are going to gain, just by taking that step of saying, hello, how are you? My name is Jaime. What comes next is going to be wonderful. And you only have to take one step, really. Fight that fear and get to know the one you have right now, the one you have next to you. If you don’t know him, introduce yourselves and get to know each other. Open up. Because you have to take advantage of today and tomorrow. Take advantage of it. Because it can change your life just by saying, hello, how are you? Okay? Lose fear, please. Lose fear. What am I going to say after this? Well, one of the themes of WorldCamps is to learn, share and enjoy. So, I encourage you to do all three. Stay until the end, because I don’t know why–well, I do know why. The work camps are very intense, besides learning a lot, you meet a lot of people or see a lot of people again. Then, when it’s 5 o’clock in the afternoon, you’re already there and you can’t go anymore. But the event ends at 8 o’clock in the evening or so. And then we have after party. Of course, tomorrow until the after party, after the event, it is very important to stay until the end to know where it is going to be. That’s right. So, stay until the end. And ask yourselves, David said, ask yourselves what you want to learn. And I tell you, ask yourselves what you can contribute. Because in this way, first you have to give and then receive. We have all said, we receive much more than we give. Yes, but first you have to give. And just with that introspection, let’s say, what can I contribute, you are going to define yourselves first, to identify yourselves in some way professionally within this group that we are, of people that are here. And then you are already going to… You are already going to have that, right? You are going to improve that part of how I can contribute. And this I would say. There’s another motto. There’s another motto. That’s an important motto that Ana said. And there’s another one that Javi says, that Wordpre the software and the Word– It’s code and work and it’s people, effectively. And that’s true. And that’s true. Right now we are, now it’s people. Of course, what are we going to talk about? Well, code, content, design, lots and lots of things. You not only talk to us, but you talk to the person next to you, because maybe among you there is someone who is a crack at I don’t know what and I don’t know, he is hidden there. Sure, sure, and maybe you can complement each other. So, I think that is very important. And lately, this is going to… I’m going to talk about my book. I’m going to make a claim a little bit and it is that lately there is a tendency to do workahm only with talks, in fact in Europe it is very very much done and the contributor is not the important day of the workahm, today is the contributor that is the day that less people come. Curiously, Work on Euros has been the contributor with more people, there were 800 people and a lot of things were done. Warpre has come to occupy 40…, at this moment I’m going to say 43, it’s probably already 44 or 45 % of the internet, 45 % of the internet or 43 % of the internet. and it’s been because of something and it’s because of the people that you have next to you, those of us that are sitting here, others that are at home, people that have never been to a WorkCamp because they don’t have the possibility or they don’t know it or they live in very remote places because we have already seen in the maps that there are hyper-earthquake communities in African countries and there are people contributing to WordPress, thanks to those people you have a CMS that is great, that allows you to express yourselves, that allows you to share your ideas and spread them to the world in a super simple way, not setting up NASA like you did when you started. And that’s thanks to people. So, you talk to people. I think the only… The people that are here, if you will. But come on, too. But with the people that are here, that’s certainly… There’s a lot of talent sitting here, for sure. So that’s… I come here to learn, I don’t know anything. On May 27th, 2023, WordPress will be 20 years old. It’s not really on that day, for me it’s actually in mid-January, at the end of January, I think it’s January 27th. This year it is 20 years old. WordPress right now, as Jesus says, has more or less a 40% share of the Internet. And you ask yourself, how in 20 years has that happened? And then I’m going to explain a little anecdote for you to see, because it reflects perfectly the basis of what a contributor is. On January 27, 2003, a guy was at home, he was using a CMS called B2 and it had not been updated for six months. And that was a CMS that was there, you could consult the code, it was there. And then that kid said, this B2 is really cool, it’s the closest thing to what I need, but what’s there doesn’t work for me, because I need to evolve it, I need new versions and the guy who does it doesn’t do anything. Then it became clear what was wrong with this guy. He was depressed, he was in a bad period and that’s why he had left it parked there. And then, well, a guy named Matt left that post on his blog. And another guy, well, not so young, answered him a Mike, left a comment and said, hey, look, what you are saying, the same thing happens to me. I really like this software. I’m very involved in the community of these people, but it’s true that nothing happens. If you really want to evolve this project, that’s where it’s going today. And those two guys got together to program. And they started to program the following months, so, so, so, so, so. And from a project that was called B2, version 0.6, ended up coming out with something called on May 27, 2003, WordPress 0.7. And that comes from two people without knowing each other, because they met like 5 or 10 years later, in person, or it’s not a very exaggerated thing, all by communicating, already on the Internet simply evolved to create what WordPress is today. That seed of one person leaving a comment on someone else’s blog is what contributors are today. You’ve come to the perfect time. And apart from what you are commenting on communication, what you were in Chiclana in 2017, how many companies came out of… A contributor was coming and talking among you, among those of us who were there, how many companies came out? I think there were three or four, and not only companies, but also collaborations, projects between colleagues in the community, there were many, at least what I experienced. And I think it was a very nice experience and I recommend it and the only thing you have to do is to take the step and talk to the person next to you, which is something that I think almost everyone has repeated and that is very important, to take that step of talking to the person next to you, because you never know the need you may have, the knowledge, because we always think that we know very little and all that is a lie, that is a belief that we are not doing ourselves, okay? That is why I recommend you to talk to as many people as possible because it is very positive and even more so on a day like today, okay? Yes, yes, yes. Yes, sure, sure, sure. Very fast, very fast, just add a little anecdote and it’s very fast, very fast. The pandemic was a disaster for all of us, imagine that we were here, the following week we were in Malaga and the following week we were locked up. And what did we do? Did we all stay here dying of disgust and crying? No, we set up a work-cam. That would be you, because I set up a work-cam. Well, they put me in, but we set up a work-camp and we set up a work-camp that twinned South America with Spain. It was work-camp in Spain and in the end it should have been called work-camp in Spanish because the truth is that it was brutal. We met a lot of people there, people who were having a hard time, people who were having a hard time, people who were in a bad situation and it was a… Well, it gave them encouragement. In fact, I am looking at one of them that we have become good friends with and always… I mean, in those difficult moments we have also been a support for each other. Because if it hadn’t been for the organization of that work camp, I would have ended up crying in the corners, I can tell you that. And, also, how we supported other meetups, such as Venezuela, for example, where we did the streaming so that they could do the meetups, since the internet there could not support a streaming connection, we had to be up, I think it was at four in the morning, because in order to have a good internet, they had to do it at twelve o’clock in the night. And not to mention that when we finished the Work in Spain After Party we ended up in one half in Managua, that what happened in Managua stayed in Managua. After Party Online? Yes, yes, after party online. Or better not. Okay, we’re also seeing that a lot of collaborating with WordPress, but how do you balance your professional time. Because we’re talking a lot about look how do we collaborate with the WordPress community, how cool is all this, but how do you balance that professional time with the community. Briefly, please. -I spend almost half of my working day on WordPress, without earning any money. In the end it’s a sieve. I’m lucky that I make a good living with what I do, not because I charge a lot, but because I have very good clients who pay well, who do everything correctly, so they don’t bother me much. And the fact that they don’t bother me much leaves me time to be able to contribute. And it’s something that they have very much ingrained in them. This with David can– I mean, we have a client who asked us to finance a project. He paid for it, he has it, and then David has kept it and he exploits it. Okay, I mean, perfect. I, for example, I dedicate more or less on average about– between 2 and 4 hours a day to the community and a little bit of things or how I organize myself inside or why for example I can, it probably happens to most of us, how I can pay for myself, for example, what I was explaining before about why I can go to the United States to a WorkCamp. I have a project that I started because yes, it’s free, it can be used and that project allows sponsorships. And so, it’s a project related to WordPress security issues. And companies in the security or hosting world in general are funding me for that project. And thanks to the money that this project generates, there is a part that I invest there and there is another part that I invest in coming here. In coming here to talk to you about what? About WordPress things that, in principle, have to do either with hosting or with security or, in this case, with technical documentation. So, do I get paid directly for coming here? No. I get paid to work on WordPress projects, which is what I like. It’s a project that I did because I absolutely wanted to. And that allows me to be here helping and contributing to the community. So, sometimes what you have to do is find your place in the community. What we were saying before, surely in your day to day you do something that you know how to do very well, that you think that everyone knows how to do well, which is, you are completely wrong because surely what you know how to do very well the other person next to you does not know it. I know how to do many hosting things, I am one of the people who probably know less about WordPress than those who are here and I know it sounds strange, but that’s how it is. But it is true that I know the community very well and that’s it. What was the question? It’s just that I forgot. Sure, sure. How do you balance your time? Oh, right, the time thing. Yes. Balance? I don’t know. I spend 15 hours a week, but really because I’m ashamed to say the real hours, which are much more. Of course, these badges you see here were given to me by a contributor in Chiclana and they are real, they are from my WordPress profile. If you go to my WordPress.org profile you see that I have the badges because I contribute to all these teams, translations, WordPress TV, Core, which is a tiny contribution, but there it is, design, Meetups, in my town in Torre Lodones We do a half to Valmes since May 2019 non-stop, including the pandemic, we were doing them online. I am also organizing the World Camp of Torreledones, which by the way, is the end of that comes. See you all there. It’s going to be great. If you feel like World Camp, you have more in Torreledones. There is very little left, but well, I’ll save some for you. You’re on my side and– [LAUGHTER] There are still tickets. What else? Plugins, also with the collaboration of our colleagues here in Chiclana. Papers in WorkCamps and I think I’ve said it all. This is a lot of hours a day and a week. But, well, in the end it is what we mentioned at the beginning. It translates into getting a job. So, we do it because we really like it and we get work and we learn a lot. So, in the end you get organized. It is true that when you really like a thing and you are very geeky, then in the end you dedicate a lot of time to it. This can be dangerous and you also have to remember your family, friends and yourself. Exercise, sports, mental health. So, we are all very geeky and we have to be clear that we also have to dedicate space to ourselves. I will take this opportunity to say it, because I think it is very important. A lot of WordPress, but also a lot of ourselves. If we are not well ourselves, then we can neither work for WordPress, nor be for the family, nor for friends, nor for anything. So it is important to block those daily times for ourselves, to eat well, to exercise and all that. It goes along the lines of what you just said. What Ana said is very important. I, for example, this year I am not the organizer of Work in Granada and they have proposed it to me. Besides, it is going to be a very special Work in Granada in October. You can go to Work in Granada, which will be on the tropical coast. But I couldn’t see myself. I have other stories. I have also decided to contribute in another way, and I can’t do everything. And I have also decided to take care of my body a little bit more, because if I don’t sit down all day long, it’s very easy to have an isthmus or a heart attack. So, what you just said is crucial. In fact, I think it is the most important thing. But yes, it’s difficult to balance, but it’s also fun. We do it having a lot of fun because come on, don’t tell me that the podcast you do with Pablo doesn’t amuse you and you meet super interesting WordPress people and we with the ninjas are exactly the same, but it takes time because you also grow with that contribution, so you have to balance sometimes you dedicate more time, sometimes less, and there are always others who also dedicate time to it. Then, to tell you the truth, everything they have said is a total lie. In other words, no one really knows how many hours they put in. Speaking of children, I have two boys. The older one is four years old, the younger one is five months old. I think today is Friday, my wife is preparing the divorce papers because she is here. This year I have been part of the organization of several Workahm. Workahm Madrid, Workahm Spain, I have also supported some Meetups. I organized the Úbeda Meetup from Madrid, but due to distances and personal reasons we have it a little bit apart here. Which means that I, like everyone else here, I am also very involved in the community, in all kinds of stuff. This year I said I was not going to participate in any organization, as I said, I have a five month old child, a company. Ana said to me, I need someone to take care of the sponsors and you have some experience. And how can I say no, Ana? Anyone would dare. So, I’m involved with Ana and a Workout Torrelojones team. I repeat, there are tickets left next week. And if anyone wants to promote their company, we can talk about it later and they can come to me. OK. Because there’s also some sponsorship out there that you can put in, OK? They take it out of my hands. So, I really don’t know how much time I spend in the community because also here you’re going to know a lot of ways to support the community. I always say that there’s also one that gets forgotten, which is also talking about WordPress, letting others know about WordPress. That’s also a way to support the community. It’s not talked about because it’s a little bit more, let’s say, it’s not as palpable, right? But me with my podcast, me with the people that I work with, that from time to time we also do– aside from my podcast as well, we usually do, we used to do, let’s see if we pick it up in roundtables, okay? Talking about WordPress questions. At the end of the day, talking about WordPress is also collaborating with the community. So, measuring that is very complicated. Collaborating in the community, you have fun, you make friends, you usually eat pretty well. Nobody says this and I say it because I like to eat a lot. In Chiclana especially, no, in general, I think that in general, in almost all the orchards. In Chiclana it is special, it is special. And you do business. It is that in the end all are benefits, both personal and business. That’s why I have never put myself, I don’t want to think how many hours I dedicate to the community because otherwise I would go crazy, but there are many, there are many, but as they have also said, to heal with pleasure not to sting. -Librar, we are all so involved in the community. I said to myself, two or three years ago I said to myself, hey, I liked this URCAN thing, I participated in several URCANs, in the URCAN of Spain, I was in several, in the one in Granada I was also a leader, and all in all, we get into a lot of trouble, and I said, well, I am going to see something more interesting, I got into the URCAN and URO. Last year, that is brutal. It’s one thing, what Jesus was saying, that there are 3,000 people, and more generally the organization team is 80 people, just the organization team, 200 volunteers. Well, it takes you a year to organize this same event, but every week, meetings of an hour and a half, almost two, with French people, with everybody. So, of course, I say, for this year I’m going to plan an event. “I’m going to repeat Work and Uro, which I liked, let’s repeat it now in Athens”. And of course, the Work and Granada guy comes and says “Hey, look, I need sponsorship, you, who are like that, and I need some sponsorship too, why don’t you take Work and Granada?” And “Come on, man, it’s true that we need to help, I’ll get involved in Work and Granada”. Then I admitted “Hey, we can’t find such a place”. In the end, as the community is, and in fact here, we are all pushing forward, it is true that you get into a lot of trouble and sometimes you have to say “this is as far as I can go” but it is true that as you do it with great pleasure, it is all very personal, you know many people, in the end you do what you can take on. If you have more time you use it more, if not try to take it a little more. But in the end, how do you balance it? In your day to day, you always have a little bit of time for translations because we all always contribute to translations that is super easy, today this plan and the other day the code profiler I love it, I say I’m going to translate again and there are 1500 strings, well I put 150 to 200, so I say there are already less left, so every day you do something, there are some classifications you already have to plan I put it at 3:30 and I’m busy with the work and Europe organizations, but the rest of the day to day I always have a little time. And that is, things that you do in the day to day but that you contribute and you see because you receive. As you receive so much, you say, well, I’m going to try to give a little bit. So, on a day-to-day basis and with certain projects per year. One of the cool things about the community is the other type of events besides the work camps, the meetups. The meetups are the monthly meetings that are usually held in one place. The work camps are like the annual party, we get together for a weekend, mostly to eat and then we do other things. But there are other types of events that are not so common, but for example in Granada we have started to do one that are the do action the do action are events so that with what you know how to do designers people of content people social networks programmers or anything that happens to do we help or in egs associations or whatever we got together a month ago does not reach the three weeks or so we have decided from the community of Granada instead of helping one or in ege help Medioplaneta, making a plugin to help animal shelters. So we got together three weeks ago, a whole day, we got into a room without knowing very well what we were going to do, because I have to admit and I’m leading the project, and we put three or four of us there, Frank is also there, who is a little technically responsible for the project and we have started to help NGOs to help them through WordPress to facilitate the adoption of animals. There are… Of course, so it’s very interesting that you also investigate this type of projects, for example in Barcelona in May there is another work camp, the first weekend and in that case they are going to help an NGO, they are just looking for which one but it’s another way to help, that is, we not only help internally to improve WordPress or the WordPress community, but we also have tools to help NGOs. I tell you this because in this case I told you, I’m leading this project, why did it come out? Last summer we started talking about the animal welfare law and I said, wow, this is cool, why don’t we do something? We started talking about it, talking about it, it took six months, but it’s started. And now the software is there, I mean, there is a repo on GitHub where the code is, anyone can contribute from anywhere in the world, and there it is. If you want to contribute, help animal shelters and so on, you can do it. If you have or collaborate with an animal shelter, that is, with any association, organization, or NG, or whatever, and you need the WordPress community, ask for it. You go to the people, in this case, you can go to Paco, and say, hey, we have this project or whatever, we’d like to help you, but we don’t know how. There are tools and we have a lot of material to be able to do it. Well, I say this because it is not only about contributing with us, but we can contribute to help others. We should also keep this in mind. And I would like that, since it has been said that we not only contribute by coding, by designing, but also by talking, I would like you to think of any question that any of the speakers here would like to ask. Since it’s not an online event, right? Of course, since it is not an online event, as Ana says, well… The hostess too. The hostess, the hostess when… Who has the question? I’d like to raise my hand or whatever you want to ask a question, okay? Y… Who wants to present? No fear, huh? What… No, you don’t have a question. Look, there’s the first question. Oh, that’s perfect. Hello. Hello, good morning. My name is Zaid, as you can see I’m not from here. And I just wanted to ask if you have a work camp in Morocco or in Africa or there or there are some initiatives that have been seen before or there are not yet? Can I answer? I’m going a little bit off the speakers. Let’s see, right now, I mean, I don’t know it by heart, I know the ones in Spain and some in some places, but I think I remember that there are. In general right now and from the maps and so on, there have been work camps even in Antarctica, just a little bit, but yes, in Greenland. So there have been, there are events practically everywhere in the world. I know that there are quite a few big events in Africa in general, and recently there has been a work cam in Asia, so there are events. What I would tell you is to go first to mita.com and search in the different cities or areas where there are workpress events and if not in workcamp.org there is a list of all the workcamps planned for the coming months. Look, you see, this is easy, while I talk and make time I was waiting for this to happen. Thanks Javier, there are WordPress meetups in Rabat and Casablanca, in Morocco. Right now there are meetups in 115 countries, there are 784 groups and we are more than half a million members worldwide. So you can go to Meetup.com and search for WordPress and you can see the map of… Meetup.com/workpress. Meetups usually have one event a month and some of those Meetups also have one event a year which is the WorkCamp, which is the biggest event like that. Of course, we don’t have to forget about the Meetups, we are talking about the WorkCamp and the Contributor, which is a larger weekend event, but the Meetups are very interesting as well. MR. MACÍAS RODRÍGUEZ: One thing that happens a lot in the community is… Hey, a WorkCamp, why don’t they do a richer WorkCamp? A lot of times what you have to think about is what can I do to help make that possible. First you start with a Meetup, you start to meet people and at the end, many times what happens in the community is not… Hey, could it be good that we are all going to contribute to that. I mean, it’s really not just having the idea, it’s really helping to make it happen. So, for example, if you want to have a WorkCamp in Morocco, in Rabat, for example, easy. That is to say, you enter the mitas, organize monthly, you get to know a group of friends and when a moment comes when you see that this has more body, you can hold a WorkCamp. But you don’t need to see, hey, what do I want to know with D, but rather, how can I help to make a work-camp possible. And that is in everyone’s hands. And the work-camp does not need to be 300, 500, 3000 people, it can be 150, 120, there are small ones… And they are perfectly possible and very rewarding. So, you don’t think of something very big to do. No, we are going to help. So, the first thing I would tell you is, before this work-camp I will go to the middle, I will see that you can even create an event next April and say come on, I am going to talk about what I know and you start to make a group a group a group a group and this will grow and it is possible to make a work camp possible. I give another example in Granada since this month of January, January I don’t know if we did in January but January February we are doing two events a month just before yesterday was one that is Warpers and Tapas and what we do is we go to a bar to drink and eat literally. Obviously conversations come up about things like “oysters I have a client who has this problem, what do you do, I don’t know what” conversations come up but we meet for food and drink and then we have a little bit of the classic one as well which is usually We do the first Wednesday of the month and the third Wednesday of the month and then on that third Wednesday of the month what we do is the classic talk. Then a speaker arrives, explains, for example, one of the volunteers here, Ana, just two weeks ago she gave a talk on desire and today she is here as a volunteer. So if someone wants to give a talk, we are missing. No, but yes, that is also another thing. If you guys know anything, or for example, me, for me the clearest example of my tab is, how do I use WordPress? You’re not going to explain anything. I mean, you can put– right now, you could go up and explain it. I mean, you don’t have to be an engineer for that either. I mean, any of you here that use WordPress in some way, you can upload and explain. We don’t have to have an engineer come in and explain how to set up I don’t know what, no, that’s also half of it. More questions, come on, more things. One quick thing. The same as I said before, the important day of the Work-in is today, although the talks are very cool tomorrow and the lunch too, the most important thing is the mitas and not the Work-in, ok? The Work-in is a consequence, but if there is no community, if there is no community, if there is no day-to-day, it is difficult, it is much more difficult, that is, there can be a work camp, but it will be more complicated. The team has to see each other month after month, at least, or twice a month, and once a month with a beer, nothing happens either. There is another question, isn’t there? Yes, yes. Hello, well, first of all thank you very much for all this, for organizing this, especially because I was not very clear about what this first day would consist of. My name is Rafa Ramos, I’ve been working with WordPress for a few years, now as a freelancer and I mainly wanted to know that, how you can contribute. So all this talk is really interesting to me because I did not see it very clear and I hope to learn more about how you can enter, not for the issue of translations or other issues. But in line with what you were saying about working with NGOs, I am now working with some organizations. And, for example, right now it occurs to me that one of them, in fact, is working with many WordPress websites, but one of them is based on Drupal. And, in fact, it’s using a very, very old version of Drupal. So, I would like to know a little bit more about how we can– in what way we can go in towards them, because for their whole ecosystem of websites to be in the end in WordPress. In what way could we not win it and how easy would that migration from Drew to WordPress be. If you have some ideas it would be appreciated. I don’t know if this would be more of a point to discuss in private. -Well, Javi, are you sure you have the perfect quote? -No, the answer is… I like to pin it. -The answer is easy. It’s– -It’s by cheque. This afternoon there is a community table, I guess, I hope, they will answer you there. If we wanted a quick answer, export them an Excel, import it. It would be a form and then call it in. More stuff, come on. You’re going to cry, okay? That’s the one they won’t tell you. More questions. More questions, more stuff. One hand raised. Let’s see, where? – I have a question from total ignorance. – That WordPress. – Because I’ve never used it. I’ve been using computers for years, I’ve used some other programs, Python, Java and so on, but I can certainly count on two hands how many times I’ve used WordPress, two or three times. And it’s been at least five years since I last used WordPress. So right now I’m like I’ve never touched it. WordPress itself, what WordPress? WordPress is a content management system. It’s a folder with a lot of files. You install it on a server that has MySQL or MariaDB and PHP and And little else, what would be the requirement? -No. -But HP, I don’t know which ones. -An Apache or Nginx. -And Apache or Nginx. And you can make all kinds of websites, from blogs to intranets. You can use it as a framework to do other kinds of– to take the data through the API and do whatever kind of application you want. Yeah, as a backend for a mobile app, right? Like a… Online store? Yes, online store, it can be very simple online store or very large online store with a lot of products. No, just to add that… It’s just that what you said is very important. WordPress when you touched it was probably what they said “it’s the application for blogging”. That’s what all the developers… I created a blog years ago and it died. One of the things that we suffer a lot is that. that. From computer science schools they teach and put in the heads of computer scientists WordPress just to make blogs. But, as Paco said, WordPress can be the backend of your mobile application, WordPress can be a web that under API launches some data that you from another application made with Django or whatever you want, you can collect. For but David with these custom applications that CRM, PR and these things and pulls the data or sends it to those applications from a WordPress. I mean, WordPress right now is a framework, that’s the best definition. And with everything that Ana has said, imagine everything that it has. -And there is one thing that I think is very important and that is that it is free software, it is open source and it has the GPL license. So, you have four freedoms. Not only WordPress, but everything that is done with WordPress, the themes, the plugins, the WorldCamps papers, this meeting, everything has the GPL license that allows us to see the code, see how it’s done, distribute it, distribute modified copies and, in addition, sell them. We download it for free, we modify it to do whatever we want it to do for whatever purpose, and we can sell it. And that’s what makes it so there’s a community behind it of people who contribute, because we can, even though we download it for free, modify it and sell it and profit from it. I was going to say that, but I’ll keep them. No, no, but there’s more. Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no, great. Apart from what my colleagues have said, you are also a computer scientist, you understand all this, people, I see a lot of scared faces, okay? There are other ways to have WordPress, there is hosting here today at the tables that sponsor this event that thanks to the sponsors that are named very little and they should be named more, how can you tell that I dedicate myself to find sponsors? It is thanks to them that this day can be celebrated, it is very important. You can ask them because normally in a very high percentage if not 100%, these hostings have in their administration panel ways to install WordPress in three clicks. With just hiring a hosting and a domain, which normally the domain is usually given to you for free, and three clicks, any of you can have a WordPress. Either for a blog, or for an online store, there is a lot of information or well, today you are in the perfect place to learn, but on the internet there is a lot of information. The talks that you are going to see tomorrow are published on the WorkanoRG channel and on the WordPress TV channel. You can see languages, that is, you can see talks in a multitude of languages on a multitude of topics. So what I want to say is that you can train for free, just putting a little bit of your part. It’s all very well what we have said about PHP and so on, there is also a part that at the end WordPress also seeks to facilitate that any of you can share your things on the Internet in an easy and intuitive way. Another thing is that you want to get into more trouble like we do and set up, I for example, I have not set up any blog and I have a company, I think I have not set up a blog in seven years. -But you write in the blog. -But I write in the blog. Well, yes, I have set up mine. The thing is that you can do a multitude of things, imagination to the power, you also have to have knowledge, but for knowledge you can have knowledge or contacts who know and can help you. Today you are in the right place, okay, if you have a project in mind, launch it, talk about it. Surely there will be someone to help you. I, to summarize everything that is surfing the Internet, the public part… Come on, in my company we do everything in WordPress, that is, we can’t think of anything… So, everything you see that is possible can be done with WordPress. And from there, well, obviously for that there is the extensibility that I was saying, with plugins you can do everything, an online store, a postcard, a blog… The blog is already native, but you can program, content sections, connect with other software applications, you can do everything. In other words, the public part in general is 100%…, for me it is 100%, but well, you can do it with WordPress. MR. PRESIDENT (Vadillo Martínez): Well, thank you for the information. Basically, WordPress is the Swiss Army Knife that allows you to build your future.

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There goes that sentence! (Applause.) How are we doing on time? So, well, I think we are going to end this round table for today, okay? I think it has been quite interesting and above all very motivating for a person who is going to start now in the WordPress community. So I would like to ask for a round of applause for our speaker. (Applause) And now we are going to see a very important thing, which is that for all this contributing to WordPress, we need an account in WordPress.rege, which is very important to be able to contribute to the community. So that’s what we’re going to see now, okay, how we can create that account that we’re going to need later for the tables, okay, it’s very important. And, well, after that talk we are going to have the food, the bocalatas are already coming here and I think we have about 15 kilos or 10 kilos of pork rinds, olives, we are going to be short of food here. We also have food for vegans and vegetarians so don’t worry. So, well, thank you very much and you’ve seen what happens for inviting five podcasters

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